tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8121497265402071351.post3459933566675340826..comments2023-10-05T20:30:21.364-07:00Comments on Things That Don't Suck: AntichristBryce Wilsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17040954580033470664noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8121497265402071351.post-45217621007628491032010-03-10T04:31:53.700-08:002010-03-10T04:31:53.700-08:00It's funny. I watched Dogville right around th...It's funny. I watched Dogville right around the time I was teaching Our Town to an advanced English class in Korea, so I was definitely in a specific place (geographically and intellectually) for it. AT the time, I dug the bare set and found it worked in boiling this town down to its people and dynamics while still feeling like, dare I say it, America.<br /><br />I recently picked up the DVD for $3 at Duane Reade (odd, I know) and have been meaning to watch it with commentary. I've yet to see Manderlay, but you do make a good point about Kidman. I wonder how the film may have played out with a lesser known actress in the lead.deadlydollshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06061028044836745499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8121497265402071351.post-78024650448847157782010-03-10T00:59:39.012-08:002010-03-10T00:59:39.012-08:00Dogville is kind of exhibit A for Von Trier proble...Dogville is kind of exhibit A for Von Trier problems with me.<br /><br />Lord knows I don't have a problem with films critical of America. But if Von Trier scored any points more salient then "Boy American's sure like their rape." I must have missed them.<br /><br />This brings me to the "fucking with me" quotient. I don't think that Von Trier wanted to make a film about America and its problems. I think he wanted to make a film in which he got to gang rape the most famous woman in the world. Not so much because of misogyny, but because its SHOCKING! Just like the technique which would be laughed out of any avant garde theater in America is used to disguise the inherent emptiness because its WEIRD. Not because it adds anything to the meaning of the film.Bryce Wilsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17040954580033470664noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8121497265402071351.post-10365592259411251772010-03-09T20:12:11.275-08:002010-03-09T20:12:11.275-08:00I do stand by Von Trier not being a misogynist, bu...I do stand by Von Trier not being a misogynist, but I will more than concur that the dude loves his ladies in pain. Maybe it's like the old Argento quote about watching beautiful women die, Von Trier just can't REALLY resist tearing off a lovely lady's genitalia or having her raped by the whole village. Still,I think the hell he puts his women through is more intended to make the men look far worse.<br /><br />He got similar beef for Dogville--not my favorite, but a film I respect--being called so anti-American when (gasp) he'd never been to the United States!deadlydollshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06061028044836745499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8121497265402071351.post-2137735165289739892010-03-09T19:18:30.359-08:002010-03-09T19:18:30.359-08:00Well there's no doubt that Dafoe is a pompous ...Well there's no doubt that Dafoe is a pompous asshole but that doesn't make him evil. <br /><br />The thing is I think the movie is aware that it's misogynistic, but can't help it. "Like Von Trier's going I know it's crazy to think this way. But I still think this way!"Bryce Wilsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17040954580033470664noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8121497265402071351.post-49763341128799950262010-03-09T19:01:09.506-08:002010-03-09T19:01:09.506-08:00Whoops, don't know how that other link ended u...Whoops, don't know how that other link ended up there (Attack from planet B is a cool site though :).<br /><br />Here's ours again: http://www.planetofterror.com/2010/03/antichrist-2009.html<br /><br />Anywhos, thanks Bryce. Whats interesting though is to read everyone's take on it (Emily's especially) and see how disparate they are. I thought it seemed like there were a lot of misogynistic undertones while Emily thought Dafoe's character was actually the evil one. Amazing how sexuality comes into play with the viewing of the film.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8121497265402071351.post-1104837528768229542010-03-09T18:38:00.178-08:002010-03-09T18:38:00.178-08:00I really liked yours and Em's write ups. They ...I really liked yours and Em's write ups. They where part of what got me off my duff to see the film. <br /><br />Like I said, its a tough film to critique. Even the misogyny, It's so misogynistic its almost beyond misogyny.Bryce Wilsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17040954580033470664noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8121497265402071351.post-43545326705590683372010-03-09T15:56:37.644-08:002010-03-09T15:56:37.644-08:00We reviewed this last week. I'm curious about ...We reviewed this last week. I'm curious about your take. So many different ways to interpret this. How do you feel about the misogynistic vibe or criticism towards the film?<br /><br />You can check out our review here, BTW:<br /><br />http://www.attackfromplanetb.com/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8121497265402071351.post-63148405103371097402010-03-09T14:04:08.188-08:002010-03-09T14:04:08.188-08:00Excellent writeup. I don't like Von Trier eith...Excellent writeup. I don't like Von Trier either, although I can appreciate Dogville a little. But I hated Antichrist.Andrew K.https://www.blogger.com/profile/01104647944747041277noreply@blogger.com